NEW PHOTOSHOP GENERATIVE FILL

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  1. bilbobaglips

    bilbobaglips Apprentice II

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    So as we all know the new PS fill is increible, but will there ever be a cracked version of it? and when they move to their shitty credit system will it be possible to work around that too?
    Or have I finally got to give in and give Adobe my precious coin?

    What are your thoughts?
     
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    You have to be connected to the Adobe servers for this to work, the same applies to some selection options, although they work processing on device.
     
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    That's a shame, hopefully someone learns how to train A.I and implement it into a 3rd party plugin. Or being able to train the a.i on your own images would be good enough.
    If they wasn't going down the Credit per use system I'd pay for it. But a subscription model & credits is pisstake. just make a higher price all inclusive.
     
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    Well i have to say I'm paying since cc started and I'm ok with that. I use photoshop in a daily basis so i prefer to stay "normal"
    The AI thing, well you probably can train but photoshop is using Firefly from.Adobe so you have be connected to the servers. And personally I don't mind to pay for some software, since,as I said, use in a daily base and charge my client's when I'm working for them or to teach them
     
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    Well, the Remove Tool has been added to Photoshop 2023 v24.5.0.500 and it's fantastic. I've posted a couple examples in my post of m0nkrus' latest build.

    https://p-v.club/threads/adobe-photoshop-2023-v24-5-0-500-by-m0nkrus-win.44819/#post-227448

    As for Generative Fill and Adjustment Scripts, these are part of Photoshop Beta and are available only through subscription. It makes sense for Adobe to at least keep Generative Fill that way, but I've heard it may be released in v24.6.0? Could be just wishful thinking.
     
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    Cool, I heard it's going to be a credit system. apparently they will be "generous" with the amount of credits, but I dunno.
     
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    Yes, I don't know either but from what I've seen of it and Firefly, I want it. :D
     
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    Creative Cloud works via credit. You can pay monthly or pay the year
     
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    By the way, the new adjustments are already on "normal"Photoshoo. Katrin Eismann develop them. For me they are useless
     
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    I already paid photoshop for try the AI and when i used a cracked app or plug in only activate my firewall, for 10 dollars is a big deal i think. It save many of my pictures that i give up for the show retouching work.
     
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    Could you please explain in greater detail what you mean by, "when i used a cracked app or plug in only activate my firewall"?
     
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    Hmm, they aren't on mine.
     
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    because if you have your firewall on, you cant do the AI generative fill, but in my case if I put the firewall off and open for example portraiture then its not working anymore. So I have to on and off my firewall I use tiny wall.
     
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    New Ai function [Generative bla bla] its running its processing entirely in cloud, despite the fact that a lot of neural filters are half running locally after download.
     
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    Gotcha! Thank you.
     
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    I've seen someone make a plugin that lets you use stable diffusion inside photoshop, so perhaps there will be something very similar to photoshop firefly in future that works offline
     
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    m0nkrus has just put together something for Firefly, but I don't have time to deal with it at the moment so:

    https://w14.monkrus.ws/2023/05/firefly-ai-support-for-adobe-photoshop.html#more
     
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    For what its worth, let me bringing you up-to-date on what's working for me.

    I am using Adobe Photoshop 2023 (Beta) v24.7.0.2200 PORTABLE by 7997
    https://p-v.club/threads/adobe-photoshop-2023-beta-v24-7-0-2200-portable-by-7997.45137/#post-229722

    With the added Adobe Firefly AI Support for Adobe Photoshop 24.6 by m0nkrus
    https://p-v.club/threads/firefly-ai...toshop-24-6-by-m0nkrus-win.45198/#post-230403

    Everything is working like a charm!

    I have absolutely no blocks in my firewall. However, I greatly modified a suggested "Hosts file" list that was shared with me by member Sammy8989. Contrary to what many so-called "experts" have said, hosts file blocks still do work with Photoshop! I will share this list with you here, and I believe it can be modified even further should you wish to spend the time on it. However, as the saying goes ... if it ain't broke, don't fit it. And I've got better things to do with my time ... like do wonderful stuff with the Generative Fill and Remove tools.

    ************************************************************************************************************************
    AS OF 7-25-2023
    - added to the host file list again

    Things have changed greatly since I originally posted this information. I have, in fact, added a few listings to my hosts file (see below), but have no blocks in my firewall. I bounce between three different versions of Photoshop (all of which I have posted here). I get different results with each. One I can use Generative Fill, but not the Remove Tool. With FireflyAI I can use the Remove Tool, but not Generative Fill. It's just a game of switching back and forth at this point.

    Anyway here's what I have in my hosts file regarding Photoshop:

    0.0.0.0 ic.adobe.io
    0.0.0.0 2ftem87osk.adobe.io
    0.0.0.0 b5kbg2ggog.adobe.io
    0.0.0.0 5zgzzv92gn.adobe.io
    0.0.0.0 8ncdzpmmrg.adobe.io
    0.0.0.0 7m31guub0q.adobe.io
    0.0.0.0 guzg78logz.adobe.io
    0.0.0.0 cc-api-data.adobe.io

    ************************************************************************************************************************

    Also, member ponnu_78 has provided a worthwhile tutorial course by Colin Smith of photoshopCAFE on how to use the Generative Fill tool.
    https://p-v.club/threads/udemy-learning-generative-fill-ai-in-photoshop.45212/
     
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    Thanks for your credit
     
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