Current state of Photo-Video.Club

Discussion in 'Suggestions and Complaints' started by pizzamakesmehappy, 16 Apr 2026.

  1. pizzamakesmehappy

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    Hey there folks,

    is it me or did not only the quantity of the freshly added content decreased significantly but also the quality of them?!
    For example Lightroom Presets, there used to be uploads of premium presets every other day. Now it is mostly cringy etsy presets, reposts from 2021 or straight up fake uploads. No bashing from my side, interested in a fruitful and constructive exchange of opinions.
     
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    Interesting.

    I don't see anything that you have shared yet on this forum, or am i missing something?

    It's a SHARE forum, so I guess if just a few of us do all the sharing, it gets O L D....real fast.
    Personally, I could share something new everyday for the next 20 years, but.......that wouldn't encourage new members to get some good threads started.

    Have noticed an uptick on "fake" or incomplete shares....admin needs to delete those and the likes the poster rec'd.
     
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    I have noticed that there are periods, some with more shares and some with less.
    But like lkngood has said above, it is important that everyone is participating in sharing or in group buys or with donations.
    Every forum is as good as the quality of it's members as a whole.
     
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    I've been here for a while and I don't think the quality or consistency has dropped off. I feel it's picked up from the days when I was first here, but I'm sure there's times when it's quieter than other times for new content.
    Also, the price of Lightroom presets has gone up to stupid levels (in my opinion), so it can be a bit of a barrier to getting new stuff...but 99% of the "big names" presets have already been shared here
     
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    i dont feel it either. its good to share or participate in group buys.
     
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    It's just you, Because PV club is by far one of the best forums around. Good luck finding something better. If you do go get some good stuff and share... LOL:D
     
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    I want to take this opportunity to say thank you to everybody! I felt like I stumbled upon a goldmine when I found this site, and still feel that exact same way! Just feeling super appreciative <3
     
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    If you find some quality, new presets it would be great if you could share them.
     
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    In my opinion, this isn’t about a lack of content. It’s about a lack of contribution. Most people have just stopped contributing and started expecting everything to be handed to them.

    For the past couple of years, group buys have been consistently active. There’s almost always something running. The difference is that it’s usually the same small circle putting in the effort, while many others just sit back and benefit without participating.

    That imbalance is what affects how things look from the outside.
    A community like this depends on contribution, not just expectations.

    So instead of debating it, let’s make it practical...

    Over the next few days, I’ll be actively sharing as much valuable content as I can and keeping group buys moving like always.
    Let’s see who’s actually willing to step up.
     
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  10. jmgcg1

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    I can speak for myself, but I’m sure I speak for other members too. Much of what I post here is paid for out of my own pocket.

    If you think the quality is slipping, here’s a challenge for you: start sharing material of a higher quality than what you see here, and that’s it.

    Believe me, we’d all be grateful. As for me, I’m not complaining; I see a lot of things here that aren’t useful to me, but they’ll be useful to others, and others find them very handy.
     
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  11. curiousdude

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    The "freshly added content" to which you refer depends on members stepping up to contribute. It does get kind of old when it's the same 15 or 20 people sharing quality stuff and everyone else riding on their coattails. If more people bought into the idea of contributing as opposed to just taking, that's when the group is healthiest. Speaking for myself, it does get rather frustrating at times to see the sheer amount of entitlement coming from some members.

    I do agree with you that we seem to be getting a glut of low-quality presets and stuff, but there is always a bit of a tendency toward offering low quality stuff just to get some likes. You start to learn which members to avoid over time.

    That said, in my experience there is also a natural ebb and flow to the group that you notice once you've been here a while. My theory (though I can't prove this, of course) is that it has a lot to do with the seasons. Things start warming up and people want to spend more time outdoors, things slow down for a bit. Colder weather starts rolling in? We see an uptick in activity.

    And finally, I'd like to challenge you a bit... there's absolutely no reason you should still be a "new member" after being here since January 2025 ;) a very small number of likes gets you out of that new member label - maybe it's a good time to start contributing back yourself? Stones and glass houses and all... Even if it's just to keep threads alive with mirrors. I even made a whole post trying to encourage people to post mirrors: ❗New folks: ❗How to easily get likes and the benefits of doing so | Photo-Video Club you can even get extra trophy points for doing so. To be clear, if you don't want to contribute anything to the group and simply pay for a Gold membership, that is certainly your prerogative, but I wouldn't then also choose to complain that people aren't sharing enough of the stuff you want - just food for thought.
     
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    I guess it depends what one is specifically looking for - right? There is so much here that it boarders on near-saturation and one needs to balance the equation of collector to actual one seeking [and reaping / retaining] education from the presented shares. There are honestly only so many ways that a subject can be taught with the obvious "uniqueness" of exactly what YOU bring to the table in the person-to-person or person-to- devotion of project completion. I guess this speaks to what spectrum is your constitution invested in the end product; all along appreciating the ancillaries because it's also about the ride too . . .

    Honestly - the only thing I can offer is to utilize those shares here - BUT also get out there and USE those elements you think may be beneficial (you'll oftentimes find some parts fit but not solely of what was shared only coming from your side - but the other as well. And from the interaction - springs a wealth of mutual benefit! And don't be afraid to make mistakes . . .

    Being a passive collector of what's on the forum is fine I guess - but it won't make you a better {whatever} - you need to get out there and interact, build relationships, network, smille, establish story, gain experience, be genuine, and the dominoes will somewhat fall into place . . .
     
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  13. pizzamakesmehappy

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    I understand the 'sharing is caring' aspect but charging money and then saying this community gets old if noone is uploading is strange to me. Imagine the owner of a gym charging all members money and then asking the members to bring machines and weights to the gym themselves saying otherwise the gym won't function.
     
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    Actually if you donate, you are already contributing, so you are no longer required to upload content, unless you want to, of course.
     
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    I never paid to get Gold. Just contribute a long the years and start to get points and finally get my Lifetime Gold
    But I have to say
    "understand the 'sharing is caring' aspect but charging money"
    So you don't have a problem come here and take stuff that lots of us paid from our pockets but, pai a subscription which is cheaper them most of the stuff you get is an "offense" ???? Sorry I don´t get it but make the math. Go and see the price of lots of stuff sharede here, I can speak for stuff I bought from Karl Taylor, Piximperfect and RGGDDU. Now if you download them see how much you save
     
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    donating is already a contribution maybe for maintaining for this site to keep alive..

    sharing is optional but for me being in this site is already a blessing.. i wont complain what's on the table. sometimes download video tutorials and workshops here which some of them are missing chapters or contents but i still enjoyed watching it.

    if you feel the contents here are losing quality why not buy the real deal and enjoy it to yourself. you dont need pvclub for it. i mean being gold member doesn't guarantee you to have premium preset/lut or other stuff. whatever you see here is what you get..
     
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    I think you may be misunderstanding what Gold is for. The default "mode," if you will, is to contribute content in exchange for getting access to everyone else's content. Gold allows you to bypass that and fast track access in exchange for cash. It doesn't replace the original intent. Gold doesn't give anyone the right to expect content, just the right to access what is here without having to put in any contributory effort. It's not a store. It's a forum ;)

    To reframe your gym analogy to be more accurate... it would be as if you went to a free community gym where the owners donated the space and everyone got a free membership. There were regular tier offerings and higher tier offerings. But all offerings were provided in a peer to peer way. One guy might offer powerlifting expertise and another guy might offer long distance running expertise, etc. Each peer decides if they think what they're offering is regular or high tier. For the higher tier offerings, you could get them for free by contributing to other members or by paying a fee to bypass that. You want to fast track your access, or you don't have workout expertise to offer, so you pay the fee instead (which is a totally valid form of contributing and no one faults you for that... but it's in exchange for the same exact access everyone else who's contributing gets). But then you decide that by paying with money instead of with effort, you deserve MORE than people who don't pay when that wasn't the agreement. You decide to expect nutrition coaching or a special class when no one offers that and then get upset when you don't get it. Perhaps some members are a nutrition coach or have unique training expertise and will offer it when they have the chance, but that isn't what was promised initially. Whatever expertise the other members offer is just a bonus. There's a mismatch in expectations here.

    To take the analogy further, if you and a few other members wanted to hire a nutrition coach, you could ask the gym owner to help organize a "group buy" if there was enough interest from other people, but you wouldn't get upset just because no one else has done it yet and given it to you for free.

    Basically, you're not paying for access to the site, you're paying for access to everyone's contributions without having to work for it. Make sense? Alternatively, you don't have to pay anything at all to get gold. You could contribute instead. That's how I have done it, for instance. I haven't paid a dime apart from helping to finance group buys, but I've been Gold the entire time I've been here, apart from right at the beginning.
     
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  18. bbrooks

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    I've been here a long time so from my perspective, this site now compared to the early days, it is so full of content that it would be nearly impossible to consume it all. The years have been kind. The forum members have been kind in sharing. I don't really need another preset but there are no shortage of them here. I've been a paid pro for longer than I'd like to admit and still find content that provides nuggets of new things to learn. For me personally, as a long standing member, I have a responsibility to give back. I have years of content from here and try to provide mirrors as much as possible. I also support as many group buys as I can even if I don't necessarily need the content sometimes. I don't have to pay for Gold so it's my way of contributing back and helps close group buys faster. I don't know any members in real life, but I know every one of the user names in this thread and have a lot of respect for them based simply on how they conduct themselves here. @pizzamakesmehappy I'm glad you are here. Thanks for the discussion. You brought out a bunch of the PV-Club legends together for the comments.

    This may need to be another thread. But speaking of legends, to the other long time members: Whatever happened to @serendipity ?
     
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    All these young whippersnappers. I come from the age of bulletin boards and trying to get the latest 1200 baud rate modem (post- 300 baud phone handset coupler) to stay connected to get a massive 400kb pdf at a blazing 2.4 kbps. In those days, we were thankful for the other party keeping a file available for a few days. It taught us patience, how to value community, and awareness of the waning and waxing of the tides of content. And as bbrooks mentioned, respect. My advice to newcomers as a relative noobie here is to spend time getting a real feel for the culture, read through the posts including the dates and get a real understanding of the history of each. I am slow so it took me a while. In fact, I am still learning, but again as bbrooks noted, this thread has a lot of "legends" found throughout the site, and their insights and, dare I say, assistance has made my journey very enjoyable. In my almost 5 decades of internet life back to DOS hypertext and Navigator on Mac, the most valuable lessons that still apply are patience and politeness. When I get irritated or frustrated I nostagically recall the sound of a dial-up modem connecting and the minutes that were required for a screen to download and display. Then I find my moment of zen.
     
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    I used to contribute a lot, but over time the balance shifted for me. Not because I don’t want to share, but because the effort stopped matching the experience. Uploading, organizing, mirroring, maintaining, buying new material — it all takes time and money. And when entitlement rises, respect/gratitude drops, and content gets leaked, the motivation eventually fades even when new stuff comes continously in.
    Add to that real‑life priorities — job, family, friends, house, (new) hobbies — and it becomes harder to justify spending hours preparing uploads and maintaining them. As curiosdude wrote above there is plenty of stuff New Members can do: "I even made a whole post trying to encourage people to post mirrors: ❗New folks: ❗How to easily get likes and the benefits of doing so | Photo-Video Club you can even get extra trophy points for doing so " Not much one sees that an effort is made here.
    I continue to appreciate the community and the people who keep it alive. Respect to all here continuing contributing in a consistent manner (you have an amazing energy and positive mindset), but I just want to be transparent about why some of us step back or just share stuff on a 1-1 basis: it’s not lack of goodwill, it’s simply that life changes and motivation changed and with this the (temporary) focus.
     
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